Kat Kerr : Recent God Movements ( Sermons June 28, 2015)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zNtgiBKyh_I
Around 22:00 Kat said America is not Babylon.
Rebecca Sterling said an angel told her that Jeremiah was talking America - Babylon being destroyed in the end days and warned people to flee America.
I do know that Kat Kerr made guesses sometimes in her statements. She said Melchizedek is PROBABLY the head of the tribe of angels that looked human. If Melchizedek is only the head of the tribe of angels, then he would be lower than humans, which is unbelievable.
But I do agree with Kat that America is a Christian nation.
Rebecca Sterling prophesied that the end is coming soon. Kat Kerr prophesied that we just entered the Kingdom age and we are not going to see the end in our life time. Kat said it will be another 200 years before the end comes. One of them must be wrong. I tend to believe that Kat Kerr is false because she said only those who don't believe in Christ will go to hell. The scripture says many who called upon the name of the LORD will be shut out of Heaven. Those who confessed by the name of the LORD but didn't do what the LORD wanted them to do will not be considered. Even though Kat Kerr has some really good teachings on loving people, she seldom talk about helping the poor, visiting the sick, etc. It was verbal love, not actions. Heidi Baker had actions.
Kat Kerr didn't say about any other person who's been taken to Hell or Heaven actually was taken to Hell or Heaven. In other words, she doesn't think that any other person had a legitimate experience of being taken to Hell or Heaven, although she did say that anybody could be chosen to visit Heaven and she shouldn't be the only one.
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There are many people who have claimed to have been to Heaven or hell. Here we focus on contradictions of stories. It's easier to agree on similarities. It's not easy to make conclusions here and I won't.
First of all, what's the color of Jesus' hair? Kat Kerr said it's white like in the Book of Revelation, but the prince of peace picture has brown.
Kat Kerr said Michael Jackson is in Heaven. But Angelica Zambrano said she saw Michael Jackson in hell. (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HreH4WCochE). She said Jesus showed him to her (1:34) Kat Kerr said there are mocked Heaven and hell and that's where other people have visited. If Kat Kerr is right, then most others' stories are not reflecting the true Heaven and hell. And why would the Devil take people to mocked Heaven and hell? What's his purpose of that? It doesn't make sense. It's either Kat Kerr is not telling the truth or the rest of the people were fooled by the Devil. Who is right?
Testimony of HELL & WARNINGS of The LORD - Rachael Mushala
http://m.youtube.com/results?q=Testimony+of+HELL+%26+WARNINGS+of+The+LORD+-+Rachael+Mushala&sm=3
In Rachael Mushala's first testimony, she said, "The Lord then told us that He was the One who showed Angelica Zambrano heaven and hell and that her testimony is true."
http://rapturetimes.org/category/heaven-and-heaven-testimonies/page/2/
Kat Kerr said that Jesus won't come in our life time. She claimed that she had first hand knowledge from the Father. Since 200 years is probably a blink of eye in Heaven if 1 day in Heaven is a thousand years on earth, I guess it could be considered very soon.
Rabbi Cahn It's Coming VERY Soon, and HAMAS Is All Throughout the Bible Prophetically!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Xh85WZsD6g
Kat Kerr said that the Lord told her to color her hair pink, and she wears pants, but Zipporah said the Lord warned against being artificial in her testimony:
http://eternal-destinations.blogspot.com/2014/02/zipporah-mushalas-second-testimony-of.html
Warnings against being artificial.
I also remembered one of them warned against women wearing pants.
Kat Kerr said Whitney Houston is in Heaven, but some one else said Whitney is in hell.
Joseph Smith said that people who died are either in paradise (not Heaven) or spirit prison (not Hell) awaiting for the final judgement. Kat Kerr said people who died are either in Heaven or hell awaiting for the final judgement day and at the final judgement day, those in hell will die the second death and be thrown into the lake of fire. Who is right?
Kat Kerr said that Heaven will come to earth first and soon but the Bible predicted that the earth is going to be in travail before the end comes. Although the Bible also talked about the earth being Heaven like in the end but not sure if it's the millennium or before it.
Kat Kerr said some angels have wings. She also said there is a tribe of angels who looked like men and angel Gabriel belonged to that tribe. Melchizedek is probably the leader of that tribe. She also said some angels look nothing like us. Some look like they are made of rock. Some look like razors. The Mormons believe that angels have no wings and all look like us.
Kat Kerr said that all the spirits were inside of the Father before they were put into the womb by the Holy Ghost. And she saw nurseries in Heaven where aborted babies were kept waiting for their mothers to rear them again. Colton Burpo said he saw his miscarried sister in Heaven as a little girl.
Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, small and great, stand before God; and the books were opened: and another book was opened, which is the book of life: and the dead were judged out of those things which were written in the books, according to their works.
These are resurrected bodies. There were children.
https://www.lds.org/manual/gospel-principles/chapter-41-the-postmortal-spirit-world?lang=eng
All spirits are in adult form. They were adults before their mortal existence, and they are in adult form after death, even if they die as infants or children (see Teachings of Presidents of the Church: Joseph F. Smith [1998], 131–32).
https://www.lds.org/manual/teachings-joseph-f-smith/chapter-15?lang=eng
After the resurrection, a child’s body will grow to match the stature of the spirit.
it was revealed from God, the fountain of truth, through Joseph Smith the prophet, in this dispensation, that in the resurrection of the dead the child that was buried in its infancy will come up in the form of the child that it was when it was laid down; then it will begin to develop. From the day of the resurrection, the body will develop until it reaches the full measure of the stature of its spirit, whether it be male or female. If the spirit possessed the intelligence of God and the aspirations of mortal souls, it could not be satisfied with anything less than this. You will remember we are told that the spirit of Jesus Christ visited one of the ancient prophets and revealed himself to him, and he declared his identity, that he was the same Son of God that was to come in the meridian of time. He said he would appear in the flesh just as he appeared to that prophet [see Ether 3:9, 16–17]. He was not an infant; he was a grown, developed spirit; possessing the form of man and the form of God, the same form as when he came and took upon him a tabernacle and developed it to the full stature of his spirit.5
Every
spirit that comes to this earth to take upon it a tabernacle is a son
or a daughter of God, and possesses all the intelligence and all the
attributes that any son or daughter can enjoy, either in the spirit
world, or in this world, except that in the spirit, and separated from
the body, they lacked just the tabernacle of being like God the Father. It is said that God is a spirit, and they who worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth [see John 4:24].
But he is a spirit possessing the tabernacle of flesh and bones, as
tangible as a man’s and therefore to be like God and Jesus all men must
have a body. It matters not whether these tabernacles mature in this
world, or have to wait and mature in the world to come, according to the
word of the Prophet Joseph Smith, the body will develop, either in time
or in eternity, to the full stature of the spirit, and when the mother
is deprived of the pleasure and joy of rearing her babe to manhood or to
womanhood in this life, through the hand of death, that privilege will
be renewed to her hereafter, and she will enjoy it to a fuller fruition
than it would be possible for her to do here. When she does it there, it
will be with the certain knowledge that the results will be without
failure; whereas here, the results are unknown until after we have
passed the test.6
The
spirits of our children are immortal before they come to us, and their
spirits, after bodily death, are like they were before they came. They
are as they would have appeared if they had lived in the flesh, to grow
to maturity, or to develop their physical bodies to the full stature of
their spirits. If you see one of your children that has passed away it
may appear to you in the form in which you would recognize it, the form
of childhood; but if it came to you as a messenger bearing some
important truth, it would perhaps come as the spirit of Bishop Edward
Hunter’s son (who died when a little child) came to him, in the stature
of full-grown manhood, and revealed himself to his father, and said: “I
am your son.”
Bishop
Hunter did not understand it. He went to my father and said: “Hyrum,
what does that mean? I buried my son when he was only a little boy, but
he has come to me as a full-grown man—a noble, glorious, young man, and
declared himself my son. What does it mean?”
Father
(Hyrum Smith, the Patriarch) told him that the Spirit of Jesus Christ
was full-grown before he was born into the world; and so our children
were full-grown and possessed their full stature in the spirit, before
they entered mortality, the same stature that they will possess after
they have passed away from mortality, and as they will also appear after
the resurrection, when they shall have completed their mission.
Joseph
Smith taught the doctrine that the infant child that was laid away in
death would come up in the resurrection as a child; and, pointing to the
mother of a lifeless child, he said to her: “You will have the joy, the
pleasure, and satisfaction of nurturing this child, after its
resurrection, until it reaches the full stature of its spirit.” There is
restitution, there is growth, there is development, after the
resurrection from death. I love this truth. It speaks volumes of
happiness, of joy and gratitude to my soul. Thank the Lord he has revealed these principles to us.It seems to me that the LDS theory of spirits in adult form were speculated based on some snapshots of facts. One is that Jesus was in adult form before he came to earth. Two, someone's son who died as a child came as an adult. The LDS contradicts itself by saying that all spirits are in adult form while it also said that your deceased children could appear in childhood form. Not sure if they misunderstood Joseph Smith and came up with a modified version. Anyway, it shows that they change things around. If like Kat Kerr said, Joseph Smith was told that all the spirits inside of the Father needs to be born and that's why he had to take on multiple wives, then he contradicts himself too if he believed that spirits are in adult forms.
Kat Kerr said our spirits were inside the Father before we came, and from inside the Father come precious stones and gems, something like that. Then it tells that the Father's body is different from ours. Jesus has the same kind of body as our. Kat said Jesus and the Holy Ghost can go inside the Father. So the Father is different from Jesus. LDS thinks the Father has a body, flesh and bones just like us. These two sayings are different.
Kat Kerr said that the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit are immortal. She didn't say like the LDS said that "the spirits of our children are immortal before they come to us". She seemed to indicate that our spirits had a beginning, but the Son and the Holy Spirit were there with Father and they had no beginning. The LDS taught that Jesus was the first created spirit and thus he was our elder brother.
